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		<title>Comment on Networking Big Society &#8211; or maybe some knowledge gardening by Thomas Neumark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Neumark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that efforts to build the Big Society will, necessarily, include efforts to utilise existing networks and build stronger, more diverse networks.

From our work at the RSA we have found that a large number of people do not know anyone they could turn to if they wanted to change something locally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that efforts to build the Big Society will, necessarily, include efforts to utilise existing networks and build stronger, more diverse networks.</p>
<p>From our work at the RSA we have found that a large number of people do not know anyone they could turn to if they wanted to change something locally.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Since there&#8217;s no Big Society Big Plan, can we expect Big Process? Probably not. by Tony Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#BigSocNet Idea :- Learning from Pepsi . http://www.refresheverything.com/ - unpack the ad/marketing - change some words, &quot;BigSoc giving away millions ..&quot; - unpack concept - &#039;every BigSocShop remakes your community&#039;

This #BigSocShop / #BigSocNet relates to thinking around #emptyshops and #learningcafes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#BigSocNet Idea :- Learning from Pepsi . <a href="http://www.refresheverything.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.refresheverything.com/</a> &#8211; unpack the ad/marketing &#8211; change some words, &#8220;BigSoc giving away millions ..&#8221; &#8211; unpack concept &#8211; &#8216;every BigSocShop remakes your community&#8217;</p>
<p>This #BigSocShop / #BigSocNet relates to thinking around #emptyshops and #learningcafes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Since there&#8217;s no Big Society Big Plan, can we expect Big Process? Probably not. by Helen Lindop</title>
		<link>http://socialreporter.com/?p=1020#comment-2825</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen Lindop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the mention! It&#039;s refreshing to hear both you and Louie Gardiner talk about the complexity involved in such a big change in society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the mention! It&#8217;s refreshing to hear both you and Louie Gardiner talk about the complexity involved in such a big change in society.</p>
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		<title>Comment on There is no Big Society Big Plan &#8211; and that&#8217;s no bad thing by Rob Dyson</title>
		<link>http://socialreporter.com/?p=1013#comment-2817</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Dyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post David - measured and unpatronising. As a healthy cynic I *want* to see the concept work (and tools like microvolunteering, such as the Orange product launch I saw you at last week will help empower us to &#039;do our bit&#039;); but I would feel better about it should there not be this transparent flattery of the third sector, buttering us up to deliver much more with much less..

I will not be a reluctant participant in Big Society, but will remain a whistleblower of broken promises.

Best, Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post David &#8211; measured and unpatronising. As a healthy cynic I *want* to see the concept work (and tools like microvolunteering, such as the Orange product launch I saw you at last week will help empower us to &#8216;do our bit&#8217;); but I would feel better about it should there not be this transparent flattery of the third sector, buttering us up to deliver much more with much less..</p>
<p>I will not be a reluctant participant in Big Society, but will remain a whistleblower of broken promises.</p>
<p>Best, Rob</p>
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		<title>Comment on There is no Big Society Big Plan &#8211; and that&#8217;s no bad thing by David Wilcox</title>
		<link>http://socialreporter.com/?p=1013#comment-2816</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wilcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how things just pop up in Twitter when you need them. Louie Gardiner &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the3rdi.co.uk/august10/potent6.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;has a great article here&lt;/a&gt; arguing that it will take a co-creation process to achieve some shared vision and purpose for Big Society to succeed.
&quot;There is no simple formula to creating the Big Society eg. &#039;hand over the running of public services to charities, social enterprises and voluntary groups&#039;. It takes a more systemic recognition of the scale of the challenge; it takes mutual understanding and appreciation not only of current and potential partners, players, people; it takes a different enquiry about the nature of the power that each has available, as well as a curiosity about their vested interest (ie what is &#039;in it&#039; for each of them to effect change rather than maintain the status quo); and then it takes a willingness to engage by enough people to create the tipping point into a new way of being in society. Change will not come from an enlightened individual. The challenge is: how to grow enough of us, who are aware enough, to generate critical mass&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how things just pop up in Twitter when you need them. Louie Gardiner <a href="http://www.the3rdi.co.uk/august10/potent6.html" rel="nofollow">has a great article here</a> arguing that it will take a co-creation process to achieve some shared vision and purpose for Big Society to succeed.<br />
&#8220;There is no simple formula to creating the Big Society eg. &#8216;hand over the running of public services to charities, social enterprises and voluntary groups&#8217;. It takes a more systemic recognition of the scale of the challenge; it takes mutual understanding and appreciation not only of current and potential partners, players, people; it takes a different enquiry about the nature of the power that each has available, as well as a curiosity about their vested interest (ie what is &#8216;in it&#8217; for each of them to effect change rather than maintain the status quo); and then it takes a willingness to engage by enough people to create the tipping point into a new way of being in society. Change will not come from an enlightened individual. The challenge is: how to grow enough of us, who are aware enough, to generate critical mass&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on There is no Big Society Big Plan &#8211; and that&#8217;s no bad thing by David Wilcox</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Wilcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Matt and Laura for crystalising one of the key issues I see in the Big Society approach: how much central, how much local, and how much may be down to third sector/civil society. If the latter can they do this on reduced budgets? Or is there a fourth way - mass engagement on the lines of Comic Relief?  That&#039;s something Big Society Network is proposing through Your Square Mile http://www.thebigsociety.co.uk/square-mile.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Matt and Laura for crystalising one of the key issues I see in the Big Society approach: how much central, how much local, and how much may be down to third sector/civil society. If the latter can they do this on reduced budgets? Or is there a fourth way &#8211; mass engagement on the lines of Comic Relief?  That&#8217;s something Big Society Network is proposing through Your Square Mile <a href="http://www.thebigsociety.co.uk/square-mile.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thebigsociety.co.uk/square-mile.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on There is no Big Society Big Plan &#8211; and that&#8217;s no bad thing by Laura McInerney</title>
		<link>http://socialreporter.com/?p=1013#comment-2814</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura McInerney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there&#039;s no plan *and* no-one in charge isn&#039;t that just... &#039;life&#039;?  

Also, if Big Society requires more of anything - in this case you say, &#039;more action by citizens, social enterprise and charities&#039; - how will you get that without a plan and/or someone in charge?  I believe &#039;wing and a prayer&#039; is a somewhat short term strategy.

I seem to remember that most of this centralisation came about precisely because when people were left to their own devices services became very patchy and tended to focus only on notions of &#039;deserving poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there&#8217;s no plan *and* no-one in charge isn&#8217;t that just&#8230; &#8216;life&#8217;?  </p>
<p>Also, if Big Society requires more of anything &#8211; in this case you say, &#8216;more action by citizens, social enterprise and charities&#8217; &#8211; how will you get that without a plan and/or someone in charge?  I believe &#8216;wing and a prayer&#8217; is a somewhat short term strategy.</p>
<p>I seem to remember that most of this centralisation came about precisely because when people were left to their own devices services became very patchy and tended to focus only on notions of &#8216;deserving poor.</p>
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		<title>Comment on There is no Big Society Big Plan &#8211; and that&#8217;s no bad thing by Matt Scott</title>
		<link>http://socialreporter.com/?p=1013#comment-2811</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a community sector person this is the way of working I am most  comfortable with viz no plan and no one in charge.  This may sound counter intuitive to many in the wider sector and government however it does not mean chaos but really a greater level of trust and sophistication in how we work with each other.  So very much applaud this and well worth BSN stating this from the off.  

What I would also like to see amidst the creative ambiguity and messiness is a clear focus on how we describe and articulate the support and development needs for very local, small and informal groups.  

I&#039;m already getting a sense from the early rumblings of the localism bill that we may be in danger of falling back on the old top down ways of operating, focusing on council and voluntary sector sub contractor worlds but not addressing the 9/10th of the VCS who never had any money or contracts in the first place and whom, rhetorically are the most obvious Big Society constituency. 

I want to see the messiness of community development, very early level community enterprise and all the simple encouragement and support that local people can access, being made much more concrete - because history and experience tells us that big words and expectations have a habit of not translating.  

The Community Empowerment agenda and neighbourhood renewal promised us a 20 year plan and abolition of neighbourhood inequality so we have been here before many times and often. 

Big Society is right to focus on the grassroots of civil society but we&#039;ll all have to work very hard to ensure we not only adopt a very open and freeing approach - no plan, no leaders - but also ensure we don&#039;t leave to chance the real distribution of power and resources and ensure this does not become a vacuum or vacuous so that people fall back on always doing what they&#039;ve always done.  

If you&#039;re a hard pressed well meaning council officer having to write a committee report to your local cabinet committee on &#039;enabling the Big Society in Humberside, Harrow or Hackney&#039;, chances are, under pressure, you&#039;ll still stick to the tried and tested capacity building and command and control and the most easily available trusted few in the VCS, so that is my challenge to myself and others on this one</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a community sector person this is the way of working I am most  comfortable with viz no plan and no one in charge.  This may sound counter intuitive to many in the wider sector and government however it does not mean chaos but really a greater level of trust and sophistication in how we work with each other.  So very much applaud this and well worth BSN stating this from the off.  </p>
<p>What I would also like to see amidst the creative ambiguity and messiness is a clear focus on how we describe and articulate the support and development needs for very local, small and informal groups.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m already getting a sense from the early rumblings of the localism bill that we may be in danger of falling back on the old top down ways of operating, focusing on council and voluntary sector sub contractor worlds but not addressing the 9/10th of the VCS who never had any money or contracts in the first place and whom, rhetorically are the most obvious Big Society constituency. </p>
<p>I want to see the messiness of community development, very early level community enterprise and all the simple encouragement and support that local people can access, being made much more concrete &#8211; because history and experience tells us that big words and expectations have a habit of not translating.  </p>
<p>The Community Empowerment agenda and neighbourhood renewal promised us a 20 year plan and abolition of neighbourhood inequality so we have been here before many times and often. </p>
<p>Big Society is right to focus on the grassroots of civil society but we&#8217;ll all have to work very hard to ensure we not only adopt a very open and freeing approach &#8211; no plan, no leaders &#8211; but also ensure we don&#8217;t leave to chance the real distribution of power and resources and ensure this does not become a vacuum or vacuous so that people fall back on always doing what they&#8217;ve always done.  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re a hard pressed well meaning council officer having to write a committee report to your local cabinet committee on &#8216;enabling the Big Society in Humberside, Harrow or Hackney&#8217;, chances are, under pressure, you&#8217;ll still stick to the tried and tested capacity building and command and control and the most easily available trusted few in the VCS, so that is my challenge to myself and others on this one</p>
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		<title>Comment on Common Purpose: the perils of being closed by Paul</title>
		<link>http://socialreporter.com/?p=531#comment-2779</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing the devils advocate it begs the question why an organisation claiming to inspire &amp; educate people to lead beyond authority, can give so many the opinion that there is something subversive about them. Having watched some of their presentational videos many could be forgiven for wondering if a course on marketing their own image may be a wise investment. 

Julia Middleton&#039;s video presentation does not in my opinion strike me as being the most inspirational of leaders. Couple that with the way she &amp; her subordinates appear to have tackled the criticism of conspiracy &amp; behind the scenes networking for a common cause, smacks of naivety. 

Maybe if graduates of Common Purpose publicly highlighted the fact that they have attended the charities courses, Common Purpose may face less criticism from the conspiracy sector.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing the devils advocate it begs the question why an organisation claiming to inspire &amp; educate people to lead beyond authority, can give so many the opinion that there is something subversive about them. Having watched some of their presentational videos many could be forgiven for wondering if a course on marketing their own image may be a wise investment. </p>
<p>Julia Middleton&#8217;s video presentation does not in my opinion strike me as being the most inspirational of leaders. Couple that with the way she &amp; her subordinates appear to have tackled the criticism of conspiracy &amp; behind the scenes networking for a common cause, smacks of naivety. </p>
<p>Maybe if graduates of Common Purpose publicly highlighted the fact that they have attended the charities courses, Common Purpose may face less criticism from the conspiracy sector.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Social App Store gains support in the North by Clare White</title>
		<link>http://socialreporter.com/?p=1002#comment-2773</link>
		<dc:creator>Clare White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 17:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great that the North meeting was a success and to read so many different thought-provoking articles around this debate. 

My first impulse is to jump up and say &quot;Bring your Big Society to Stoke-on-Trent&quot;, but first of all I&#039;ve already done that and second of all it&#039;s probably better to start thinking about what places &quot;like&quot; Stoke-on-Trent can offer to all this and the Apps store in particular. 

So as well as ideas and a broad range of views to bounce those ideas off, we have practical skills here. It&#039;s an area that lacks resources so a very accessible app store would help us to turn ideas into action without money. 

We have thriving creative communities here who can turn written ideas into things that will look beautiful and eye-catching on screen: animations, icons, shiny social maps and diagrams etc. And of course mugs! My unabashed motive here is to get people commissioned and North Staffordshire&#039;s work sold, but if that prospect isn&#039;t on the table at this stage I think the Apps store could make a great wide-ranging project for students to get their teeth into. 

I guess the hyperlocal bloggers have a role here too, to write about the people they know who aren&#039;t themselves waving up and down and shouting &quot;Hey you, the Big Society&#039;s HERE!&quot; As can the local and national politicians, of course, who are often the ones most often in contact with the local community pests/activists.

Just a few thoughts, as ever you&#039;re very welcome to come and see us in Stoke! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great that the North meeting was a success and to read so many different thought-provoking articles around this debate. </p>
<p>My first impulse is to jump up and say &#8220;Bring your Big Society to Stoke-on-Trent&#8221;, but first of all I&#8217;ve already done that and second of all it&#8217;s probably better to start thinking about what places &#8220;like&#8221; Stoke-on-Trent can offer to all this and the Apps store in particular. </p>
<p>So as well as ideas and a broad range of views to bounce those ideas off, we have practical skills here. It&#8217;s an area that lacks resources so a very accessible app store would help us to turn ideas into action without money. </p>
<p>We have thriving creative communities here who can turn written ideas into things that will look beautiful and eye-catching on screen: animations, icons, shiny social maps and diagrams etc. And of course mugs! My unabashed motive here is to get people commissioned and North Staffordshire&#8217;s work sold, but if that prospect isn&#8217;t on the table at this stage I think the Apps store could make a great wide-ranging project for students to get their teeth into. </p>
<p>I guess the hyperlocal bloggers have a role here too, to write about the people they know who aren&#8217;t themselves waving up and down and shouting &#8220;Hey you, the Big Society&#8217;s HERE!&#8221; As can the local and national politicians, of course, who are often the ones most often in contact with the local community pests/activists.</p>
<p>Just a few thoughts, as ever you&#8217;re very welcome to come and see us in Stoke! <img src='http://socialreporter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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